I’ve not moved any goalposts. I’ve made it clear how each area of the EP and EC works. The EP is elected by the populace but has severely truncated power. They have no legislative ability, their function is closer to the House of Lords in the UK and even then they don’t even have the ability to “ping-pong” legislation, they can send stuff back up to a point but the EC has the final say, always has done and always will do.
The EC are the lawmakers, but they’re not directly elected by any vote, they’re not even indirectly voted in by their respective governments, they’re selected and that is how the EC is constructed, and they form the legislative arm of the EC.
That is why people have an issue with the optics of democracy or lack thereof. The bits they can vote in don’t actually have significant power and the bits that have power aren’t actually voted in.
EDIT: If you push the argument that by voting in the government you’re voting in the EC, that’s sophistry, it’s what Grizz has been pushing and it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. If the EC was elected directly by the populace then we’d be having a very different conversation, but the reality is that the EC is not voted in via any method, they are selected and constructed via governments who pick their representatives. There is no citizen oversight into that process.
If there’s proof otherwise, I’ve yet to see it.
There’s a significant level of truth in this, a lot of people who are MEP’s here are people who didn’t make the cut as MP’s or decided to switch from one cozy seat to another.
I’m in favour of the EU from the standpoint of a trading bloc, a consumer protection bloc, a workers rights bloc and a general “make things unified for the avoidance of lots of complicated bullshit” bloc, I’ve developed concerns where it’s become a supra-national political arm because the actions it’s taken haven’t been generally in the interest of ensuring that everyone is “lifted up together”, but instead it’s been “Do as we say” and they’ve been highly hypocritical when it comes to certain matters (Catalonia anyone?).
What political reforms would you want applied though? Bearing in mind that generally there was not the level of resentment against the EU until it started pushing the supra-national policial aims in the late 90’s and onwards. What would be the desired “fix” to get the EU back on track?