Good point - so maybe he grabs Rhaegal and/or Drogon has to kill Rhaegal.
Also if the horn kills by internal burning, I wonder if it would kill a fire-wight like Jon, or a fireproof fucker like Dany, or a fireproof fucker like the Night King.
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I can’t make you buy it, but you’re claiming these are all “atrocities”? That simply is not true. Wars between armies are not inherently atrocities except in the most modern of minds, and certainly not to “advanced medieval” like these guys are. Further, the only ones that even arguably are atrocities, or involve them, have the atrocities carried out by “baddies” - i.e. Lannisters or Boltons or the like, or by Dany herself.
- Riverrun - Small scale, Lannisters
- Highgarden - Unknown scale, Lannisters
- Winterfell - Small scale, Boltons
- The Blackwater - Not an atrocity, destruction of an enemy fleet with low if any civilian casualties
- Harrenhal - Er… I honestly don’t remember but I’m going to say “Lannisters”
- Ironborn Invasion - Unknown scale, Greyjoys
- Greyjoy Rebellion - Unknown if civilian casualties, Greyjoys
- Robert’s Rebellion - Unknown scale, no civilian massacres known to be carried out by Robert’s side, whereas Aerys TARGARYEN, Dany’s Dad wanted to BURN DOWN KINGS LANDING seem familiar?! And was stopped from doing so by Jaime Lannister, and even enemies of the Lannisters are basically glad that Jaime did this. I am admit it’s fucked up the show didn’t point this out more obviously, because I’m sure most of the audience doesn’t remember.
Targaryen wars I can’t speak on, haven’t read the history book that came out more recently. Astapor, etc. is all on either assholes from Essos, or Dany herself.
My point here, which maybe wasn’t clear, was that the Starks and their allies (including Baratheons, but not Stannis post-becoming a religious burndamentalist) do not generally willingly and intentionally massacre large numbers of civilians in the name of a military target. It’s abhorrent to them. You have to remember that Ned, remember that guy, died for honour. Everything bad that happened to him, happened because of honour. And I get it, you’re saying, but honour is DUMB and arguably it is, and arguably Ned was a moron. But guess who is more or less exactly like Ned (and this is even clearer in the books, where they just keep on saying it)? Jon.
Jon is not going to go for any plan that involves BURNING DAT SHIT DOWN. Call him dumb if you like, but it’s consistent and reliable characterisation, and true in both the books and the show. Jon does dumb shit all the time because just like his supposed uncle (I am increasingly wondering if R+L=J is actually true or Bran pulling a complicated fast one), he’s all honour, all the time. He willingly brought the Wildlings - horrible barbarian scumbags - on to our side of the wall, because he didn’t want civilian casualties, and you think he’ll what, go “Okay Dany I guess that’s fine…” if she wants to burninate a few tens of thousands of people, like her dear old dad.
So Dany has two options:
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Go rogue and BURN DAT SHIT DOWN. That, she knows, is unlikely to end well, but she’s prone to flying off the handle so…
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Work with Jon to find some sort of solution that doesn’t involving going all Aerys Targaryen on this shit.
I think it’s fair to predict that that solution, in the end, after siege fails, is going to be some of “covert strike”, probably involving the Onion Knight smuggling a team into King’s Landing to attempt to whack Cersei and Jackoff Sparrow. I think it’s also fair to predict this will probably go very, very, very, very, very wrong. I think this will be where an awful lot of the remaining characters die.
Yeah, what I’m saying is in the books, she probably knows about the horn somehow, at this point, and the showrunners thus didn’t have her destroy the fleet, but also failed to do a scene where they created an alternate explanation for her not destroying the fleet.
Sure, and that’s a reasonable question. The likely answer is that forces were overcommitted elsewhere and there was no particular strategic benefit to controlling that stretch of sea more strongly. I haven’t analysed this so if you have more in-depth stuff I am interested.
I think it’s clear Dany doesn’t operate the same way as you, though. She’s never been a “rational analysis” type, which is why rational analyses of situations often fail to sway her. You are arguing from a Tywin Lannister position, not a Dany position. And that’s why this particular criticism is rare. I hear a lot of frequent criticisms on the internets, but that ain’t even in the top 100.
/shrug - I don’t agree. I’ve seen countless short PR interviews with TV writers and directors who have made amazing things, and the vast majority of them come off in short PR interviews as complete fucking idiots. This is why I stopped watching “behind the scenes” stuff for shows I like, and why I place no weight on it.
Now, lengthy, serious documentaries with proper interviews? They often give a very different picture. But “behind the scenes”-type stuff that comes out with each episode of a show? That just makes everyone look stupid. I can’t think of a single show which does it that’s an exception.
I mean… when the entire city was taken over by the Sparrows? Cersei walking naked through the streets, etc? It was kind of most of a season… 
I agree that it isn’t a sure thing, but also not unreasonable to see if you can make it happen. King’s Landing is just a well-defended castle with limited civilians like Winterfell usually is - it’s one of the largest cities on the planet (if not the largest - gigantic by medieval standards - I think only Istanbul would have rivaled it in the real world in this general technological era), and the people wildly outnumber the Lannister forces, probably hundreds to one.
But am I saying it will work? No prediction is that it will not, and I don’t think the dragon is necessarily going to work in Dany’s favour. My prediction is they will try, reasonably enough, a roll of the dice, but fail.
I suspect we agree on that much at least.
Yeah - there seems to be some dismayed looks but only a few - like they charged early, but not like it was entirely unexpected. I agree that your changes would have made it more tense, but I don’t agree with some people that the episode was somehow ruined or even really damaged by not going that way. I don’t think the tension was ever going to work all that well because there are simply so many wights. Re: two trenches - that makes more tactical sense, sure, but I don’t think it makes dramatic sense - they were already at 82 minutes.
It’s a bit like Aliens and the deleted scenes with the sentry guns. They make tactical sense and make the marines seem more competent, but the utterly bog down the film and waste time.